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Setting Coupling Facility VOLATILE: NO
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Knutson, Sam
17 years ago
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Hi,



I have been looking at Logger performance as we have increases
significantly the amount of data going into Logger in the last few
years.

One thing I am considering in conjunction with our next CEC installation
is to have the z/OS team set the ICF partition in the new CEC as
VOLATILE: NO.

With a non-volatile CF in another failure domain (CEC) it looks like I
could improve throughput and reduce I/O on some of my heavily used
logstreams.

We have redundant power connection and triple redundant power
architecture in the data center.

It seems that if you have a reliable UPS infrastructure and redundant
connections from the z box to different PDU's this is reasonable.



Does anyone order the internal battery on a CEC? Does anyone set a
standalone CF or ICF partition as VOLATILE: NO without an internal
battery?

Thanks,

Sam Knutson, GEICO
Performance and Availability Management
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Lizette Koehler
17 years ago
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I seem to recall that DB2 has issues with VOLATILE but do not remember what
they are. Will you have DB2 running on them?

Lizette



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I have been looking at Logger performance as we have increases
significantly the amount of data going into Logger in the last few
years.

One thing I am considering in conjunction with our next CEC installation
is to have the z/OS team set the ICF partition in the new CEC as
VOLATILE: NO.

With a non-volatile CF in another failure domain (CEC) it looks like I
could improve throughput and reduce I/O on some of my heavily used
logstreams.

We have redundant power connection and triple redundant power
architecture in the data center.

It seems that if you have a reliable UPS infrastructure and redundant
connections from the z box to different PDU's this is reasonable.



Does anyone order the internal battery on a CEC? Does anyone set a
standalone CF or ICF partition as VOLATILE: NO without an internal
battery?
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Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
17 years ago
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Post by Knutson, Sam
Hi,
I have been looking at Logger performance as we have increases
significantly the amount of data going into Logger in the last few
years.
One thing I am considering in conjunction with our next CEC
installation
Post by Knutson, Sam
is to have the z/OS team set the ICF partition in the new CEC as
VOLATILE: NO.
With a non-volatile CF in another failure domain (CEC) it looks like I
could improve throughput and reduce I/O on some of my heavily used
logstreams.
Where and why do you forsee the improvements?
AFAIK a CF in the same CEC, connected with internal microcode emulated
CF links, is still much faster than external links to a CF in another
CEC. So you mean you can improve performance by moving to an external
CF?

Kees.
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Skip Robinson
17 years ago
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I'm also curious about performance differences vis a vis volatility. In the
early days of parallel sysplex, some exploiters used the volatility
indicator when deciding whether a CF was acceptable for structure
allocation. I haven't heard much of that in years. We recently upgraded a
couple of CECs and therefore had to set up new ICF LPARs. Even my IBM rep
recommended setting them nonvolatile because we have several backup power
sources.

We stopped ordering the internal battery long before we moved from
standalone to internal CF.

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Post by Knutson, Sam
Hi,
I have been looking at Logger performance as we have increases
significantly the amount of data going into Logger in the last few
years.
One thing I am considering in conjunction with our next CEC
installation
Post by Knutson, Sam
is to have the z/OS team set the ICF partition in the new CEC as
VOLATILE: NO.
With a non-volatile CF in another failure domain (CEC) it looks like I
could improve throughput and reduce I/O on some of my heavily used
logstreams.
Where and why do you forsee the improvements?
AFAIK a CF in the same CEC, connected with internal microcode emulated
CF links, is still much faster than external links to a CF in another
CEC. So you mean you can improve performance by moving to an external
CF?

Kees.

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Barbara Nitz
17 years ago
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Oh yes, the good old volatility chapter:

Logger determines single point of failure for a logger connection to a structure and attempts to allocate (if possible) so that the connection is non-volatile. Single point of failure in turn determines if a log stream is duplexed (using duplexmode(cond), which is the default).

Sam,
1. what duplexmode are you using?
2. when you specify non-volatility for the CF, will your log stream be in a single point of failure situation? (Remember that CF volatility is only one criteria)

If the answers are 1 COND and 2 NO, then you may see less cpu consumption because duplexing is not done anymore. Otherwise, I don't see how it will help performance. I think.

I have no clue if we have an internal battery :-)

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