Discussion:
7-digit Job IDs
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Charles Mills
2018-06-30 13:28:06 UTC
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IIRC at some point in the not too distant past it became possible to
configure JESx to assign Job IDs of the form Jnnnnnnn rather than the
traditional JOBnnnnn. Where would I find a more formal description of that
capability than what I just wrote? For JES2? For JES3?

I searched the two JES Init and Tuning manuals but I guess I am looking for
the wrong keywords.

A search of Google for seven-digit jobs leads to headhunter sites. <g>

Thanks,

Charles

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Steve Smith
2018-06-30 13:53:41 UTC
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I'd sure like to have a seven-digit job!  I am not a JES expert, but I
suspect you're looking for the job number range or maximum job number
parameter.  Our shop has both 5 and 7-digit systems, although one is
essentially 4-digits except it allows JOB10000 before rolling over to
JOB00001.

sas
Post by Charles Mills
IIRC at some point in the not too distant past it became possible to
configure JESx to assign Job IDs of the form Jnnnnnnn rather than the
traditional JOBnnnnn. Where would I find a more formal description of that
capability than what I just wrote? For JES2? For JES3?
I searched the two JES Init and Tuning manuals but I guess I am looking for
the wrong keywords.
A search of Google for seven-digit jobs leads to headhunter sites. <g>
Thanks,
Charles
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Charles Mills
2018-06-30 13:57:27 UTC
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Got it. JOBDEF RANGE and OPTIONS JOBNO.

I see a similar thread I started in 2016. Here is the problem I am wrestling
with. QA is testing a product I am responsible for. They specify
JOBID(FOOBAR). The product correctly does not find anything. QA wants to
know why it doesn't say "invalid Job ID" rather than "not found."

In the particular case I think the tester meant JOBNAME(FOOBAR). "Invalid
format JOBID" certainly would have been more helpful for the user, but I
guess that is not possible.

Charles


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IIRC at some point in the not too distant past it became possible to
configure JESx to assign Job IDs of the form Jnnnnnnn rather than the
traditional JOBnnnnn. Where would I find a more formal description of that
capability than what I just wrote? For JES2? For JES3?

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Lizette Koehler
2018-06-30 14:43:55 UTC
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$DJOBDEF or $DOUTDEF

Should have the details for JES2 - I did not open my manuals, so not sure which
one

Lizette
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Charles Mills
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Subject: 7-digit Job IDs
IIRC at some point in the not too distant past it became possible to
configure JESx to assign Job IDs of the form Jnnnnnnn rather than the
traditional JOBnnnnn. Where would I find a more formal description of that
capability than what I just wrote? For JES2? For JES3?
I searched the two JES Init and Tuning manuals but I guess I am looking for
the wrong keywords.
A search of Google for seven-digit jobs leads to headhunter sites. <g>
Thanks,
Charles
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Ed Jaffe
2018-06-30 15:09:57 UTC
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Post by Charles Mills
IIRC at some point in the not too distant past it became possible to
configure JESx to assign Job IDs of the form Jnnnnnnn rather than the
traditional JOBnnnnn. Where would I find a more formal description of that
capability than what I just wrote? For JES2? For JES3?
For eons, JES3 allowed six digit job numbers i.e., 'J0' followed by a
number 1-999999. The range is specified via the JOBNO= parameter on the
OPTIONS statement in the init deck. Several years back (can't remember
the exact release), JES2 was enhanced to support the identical job
number range (specified via the RANGE= keyword on the JOBDEF statement).

During that same time period JES3 also supported 999999 jobs on SPOOL.

As part of its initiative to make JES2 more palatable to JES3 customers,
IBM raised the JES2 number of jobs on SPOOL specified via the JOBNUM=
keyword of the JOBDEF statement, from 400000 to be one higher than JES3
(1000000) starting with z/OS 2.2 JES2.

HTH
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Paul Gilmartin
2018-06-30 15:29:20 UTC
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Post by Charles Mills
IIRC at some point in the not too distant past it became possible to
configure JESx to assign Job IDs of the form Jnnnnnnn rather than the
traditional JOBnnnnn. Where would I find a more formal description of that
capability than what I just wrote? For JES2? For JES3?
IN:
JOBDEF - Job Definition
Parameter description for JOBDEF
RANGE=nnnnn[,mmmmm]|1,9999
Specifies the range of numbers (1 through 999999) which JES2 assigns as JOBIDs to jobs which originated on the local node.
The integer n specifies the lowest number (1 through 999999) which is assigned as a JES2 job identifier for jobs originating locally.
The integer m specifies the highest number (n+10 through 999999) which is assigned as a JES2 job identifier to jobs originating locally. Note that setting the upper limit above 99,999 causes the JOBID format to change from CCCNNNNN to C0NNNNNN

Well, 6, anyway.

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Paul Gilmartin
2018-06-30 15:33:02 UTC
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Post by Charles Mills
IIRC at some point in the not too distant past it became possible to
configure JESx to assign Job IDs of the form Jnnnnnnn rather than the
traditional JOBnnnnn. Where would I find a more formal description of that
capability than what I just wrote? For JES2? For JES3?
In:
z/OS IBM JES2 Initialization and Tuning Reference
Version 2 Release 3 SA32-0992-30
Chapter 3. JES2 initialization statement descriptions
JOBDEF - Job Definition
Parameter description for JOBDEF
RANGE=nnnnn[,mmmmm]|1,9999
Specifies the range of numbers (1 through 999999) which JES2 assigns as JOBIDs to jobs which originated on the local node.
The integer n specifies the lowest number (1 through 999999) which is assigned as a JES2 job identifier for jobs originating locally.
The integer m specifies the highest number (n+10 through 999999) which is assigned as a JES2 job identifier to jobs originating locally. Note that setting the upper limit above 99,999 causes the JOBID format to change from CCCNNNNN to C0NNNNNN

Well, 6, anyway.

-- gil

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Jantje.
2018-07-02 10:45:04 UTC
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Post by Charles Mills
A search of Google for seven-digit jobs leads to headhunter sites. <g>
I am sure you deserve a seven-digit salary -- but are not getting it :-(


Try adding

site:ibm.com

to your Googling.

Cheers,

Jantje.

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