IBM THINK original equipment sign

[Don Higgins]

All

I was cleaning out this week, and found an IBM THINK original equipment sign
that was given to me by a retiring COBOL programmer in 1968 when I worked
for Electronics Communications Inc. (Later E-Systems and now Raytheon).

The sign is laminated black letters on white background on a wooden plaque
aobut 12" long and 5" high. Under the THINK in small letters is "Compliments
of IBM Corporation" and in the lower right corner is "Printed in USA".

Is there a market for such relics? If you are interested, email me.

Don Higgins
***@higgins.net

PS: I'm not ready to give up my IBM coffee mugs which I use every day.

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[Shane]

On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 06:40 -0500, Don Higgins wrote:

> Is there a market for such relics?

Couple of folks here help out with museums - they may be interested.

> PS: I'm not ready to give up my IBM coffee mugs which I use every day.

When I was at Amdahl, the tech services manager of one of (the ???)
biggest Aussie customers had a pretty good collection of vendor mugs.
He made a point of ensuring vendors got a competitors mug for coffee.
Lots of fun around tender time - the "out-of-town" hot-shot salesmen
didn't know which way to look when he made them a brew. Especially in a
multi-vendor briefing .... ;-)

Ah ... thems were the days.

Shane ...

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[Jon Brock]

We still do that sort of thing. You know, wear a competing vendor's
polo shirt to a meeting, etc. It keeps things lively sometimes.

Jon


<snip>
When I was at Amdahl, the tech services manager of one of (the ???)
biggest Aussie customers had a pretty good collection of vendor mugs.
He made a point of ensuring vendors got a competitors mug for coffee.
Lots of fun around tender time - the "out-of-town" hot-shot salesmen
didn't know which way to look when he made them a brew. Especially in a
multi-vendor briefing .... ;-)

Ah ... thems were the days.
</snip>

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[Rick Fochtman]

--------------------------------<snip>-----------------------------
We still do that sort of thing. You know, wear a competing vendor's polo
shirt to a meeting, etc. It keeps things lively sometimes.
-------------------------------<unsnip>---------------------------
I like to re-read the competitor's literature when the salesman walks
in. ANd it's always prominently featured on my desk. :-)

Nothing like keeping them honest! :-))

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[Anne & Lynn Wheeler]

ibm-***@TPG.COM.AU (Shane) writes:
> When I was at Amdahl, the tech services manager of one of (the ???)
> biggest Aussie customers had a pretty good collection of vendor mugs.
> He made a point of ensuring vendors got a competitors mug for coffee.
> Lots of fun around tender time - the "out-of-town" hot-shot salesmen
> didn't know which way to look when he made them a brew. Especially in a
> multi-vendor briefing .... ;-)
>
> Ah ... thems were the days.

when my brother was regional marketing rep for Apple (largest physical
area in conus) ... he would almost fawn over much he liked other vendor
(IBM) coffee mugs and would offer to trade Apple mugs if he could have
those really neat mugs.

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[Warren Brown]

Hey Don, Watch on ebay item 230284517985 which is now listed for sale. See what it fetches once the auction is over. I have one of these too. Plus other memorable stuff accumulate during my years with IBM. Never thought about the value of these items.

Warren Brown
-------------- Original message from Don Higgins <***@TAMPABAY.RR.COM>: --------------


> All
>
> I was cleaning out this week, and found an IBM THINK original equipment sign
> that was given to me by a retiring COBOL programmer in 1968 when I worked
> for Electronics Communications Inc. (Later E-Systems and now Raytheon).
>
> The sign is laminated black letters on white background on a wooden plaque
> aobut 12" long and 5" high. Under the THINK in small letters is "Compliments
> of IBM Corporation" and in the lower right corner is "Printed in USA".
>
> Is there a market for such relics? If you are interested, email me.
>
> Don Higgins
> ***@higgins.net
>
> PS: I'm not ready to give up my IBM coffee mugs which I use every day.
>
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[Kelman, Tom]

There's also a book on ebay titled "As a Man Thinks" which, according to
the description, is Thomas J. Watson's philosophy of life as expressed
in his editorials. It was published by IBM in 1954. Currently the bid
for the THINK sign is $10.50 and the bid on the book is $3.00. To me
the book would be worth more than the sign, but then that's ebay where
pieces of fruit with images of Jesus or Mary go for big bucks. ;-)

Hmmm, I've never bid on ebay before, but maybe I'll put in a bid for the
book.

Tom Kelman
Enterprise Capacity Planner
Commerce Bank of Kansas City
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> Behalf Of Warren Brown
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>
> Hey Don, Watch on ebay item 230284517985 which is now listed for sale.
> See what it fetches once the auction is over. I have one of these
too.
> Plus other memorable stuff accumulate during my years with IBM. Never
> thought about the value of these items.
>
>
> Warren Brown
> -------------- Original message from Don Higgins
<***@TAMPABAY.RR.COM>: -
> -------------
>
>
> > All
> >
> > I was cleaning out this week, and found an IBM THINK original
equipment
> sign
> > that was given to me by a retiring COBOL programmer in 1968 when I
> worked
> > for Electronics Communications Inc. (Later E-Systems and now
Raytheon).
> >
> > The sign is laminated black letters on white background on a wooden
> plaque
> > aobut 12" long and 5" high. Under the THINK in small letters is
> "Compliments
> > of IBM Corporation" and in the lower right corner is "Printed in
USA".
> >
> > Is there a market for such relics? If you are interested, email me.
> >
> > Don Higgins
> > ***@higgins.net
> >
> > PS: I'm not ready to give up my IBM coffee mugs which I use every
day.
> >
> >
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[Warren Brown]

I bid on ebay all of the time. For many items, the serious bidders wait until there only seconds left before they bid. So, the current price on an item many times is not really realistic

Warren Brown
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> There's also a book on ebay titled "As a Man Thinks" which, according to
> the description, is Thomas J. Watson's philosophy of life as expressed
> in his editorials. It was published by IBM in 1954. Currently the bid
> for the THINK sign is $10.50 and the bid on the book is $3.00. To me
> the book would be worth more than the sign, but then that's ebay where
> pieces of fruit with images of Jesus or Mary go for big bucks. ;-)
>
> Hmmm, I've never bid on ebay before, but maybe I'll put in a bid for the
> book.
>
> Tom Kelman
> Enterprise Capacity Planner
> Commerce Bank of Kansas City
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-***@BAMA.UA.EDU] On
> > Behalf Of Warren Brown
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:55 AM
> > To: IBM-***@BAMA.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: IBM THINK original equipment sign
> >
> > Hey Don, Watch on ebay item 230284517985 which is now listed for sale.
> > See what it fetches once the auction is over. I have one of these
> too.
> > Plus other memorable stuff accumulate during my years with IBM. Never
> > thought about the value of these items.
> >
> >
> > Warren Brown
> > -------------- Original message from Don Higgins
> : -
> > -------------
> >
> >
> > > All
> > >
> > > I was cleaning out this week, and found an IBM THINK original
> equipment
> > sign
> > > that was given to me by a retiring COBOL programmer in 1968 when I
> > worked
> > > for Electronics Communications Inc. (Later E-Systems and now
> Raytheon).
> > >
> > > The sign is laminated black letters on white background on a wooden
> > plaque
> > > aobut 12" long and 5" high. Under the THINK in small letters is
> > "Compliments
> > > of IBM Corporation" and in the lower right corner is "Printed in
> USA".
> > >
> > > Is there a market for such relics? If you are interested, email me.
> > >
> > > Don Higgins
> > > ***@higgins.net
> > >
> > > PS: I'm not ready to give up my IBM coffee mugs which I use every
> day.
> > >
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[Rick Fochtman]

I can match that with the black plastic "Shark Fin" that was handed out
to selected customers when the 2105 first hit the street. Or the
three-chip CMOS paperweight from the 9672 rollout. :-)

Don Higgins wrote:

>All
>
>I was cleaning out this week, and found an IBM THINK original equipment sign
>that was given to me by a retiring COBOL programmer in 1968 when I worked
>for Electronics Communications Inc. (Later E-Systems and now Raytheon).
>
>The sign is laminated black letters on white background on a wooden plaque
>aobut 12" long and 5" high. Under the THINK in small letters is "Compliments
>of IBM Corporation" and in the lower right corner is "Printed in USA".
>
>Is there a market for such relics? If you are interested, email me.
>
>Don Higgins
>***@higgins.net
>
>PS: I'm not ready to give up my IBM coffee mugs which I use every day.
>
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[Todd Burch]

Several years ago, I rented a storage unit in Houston. The only item left
by the prior tenant was an old "IBM S/360" sign that would have been
attached to the top front of a S/360 class CPU on stand-offs. It was
aluminum, painted black, with no paint to create the logo.

I carried it around for several years, and then got tired of looking at it.
I put it on ebay for $1. A week later, it sold for $76 in a very heated
and active auction.

Yes, there's a market.

Todd

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> Is there a market for such relics? If you are interested, email me.
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[Ed Finnell]

In a message dated 8/27/2008 8:09:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
***@GHS.ORG writes:

We still do that sort of thing. You know, wear a competing vendor's
polo shirt to a meeting, etc. It keeps things lively sometimes.


>>

Well, I used to like my XLR8 mug from years past, but boy
the reprimands just ain't worth the trouble. I took it home
and replaced it with Disneyworld...







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[Sebastian Welton]

I have an original IBM Thinkpad. This is a small brown pocket notepad with
the word 'THINK' printed on the front and 'IBM' on the back (pn 520-6430 nad
520-6431) still with the original paper pad inside but I think I'll keep it as its
quite amusing showing people.

Seb.

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[J R]

OMG! Your post reminded me that I have several of those. Mine
are black. I have about a half dozen in vinyl (the newer model)
and another half dozen of the originals that were in fabric-covered
cardboard. Gold lettering I believe.

Now, I just have to find them among 40 years worth of items
from my IBM career. (Not all with IBM but the early years were.)

I know I still have them. I don't throw anything out!


> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:12:47 -0500
> From: ***@WELTON.DE
> Subject: Re: IBM THINK original equipment sign
> To: IBM-***@BAMA.UA.EDU
>
> I have an original IBM Thinkpad. This is a small brown pocket notepad with
> the word 'THINK' printed on the front and 'IBM' on the back (pn 520-6430 nad
> 520-6431) still with the original paper pad inside but I think I'll keep it as its
> quite amusing showing people.
>
> Seb.



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[Chase, John]

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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of J R
>
> OMG! Your post reminded me that I have several of those.
> Mine are black. I have about a half dozen in vinyl (the
> newer model) and another half dozen of the originals that
> were in fabric-covered cardboard. Gold lettering I believe.
>
> Now, I just have to find them among 40 years worth of items
> from my IBM career. (Not all with IBM but the early years were.)
>
> I know I still have them. I don't throw anything out!

Apparently it's still "in vogue" within IBM. The Chicago IBM office
(the floor I visit, anyway) is wallpapered with "Think" in various
languages.

-jc-

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[Anne & Lynn Wheeler]

***@WELTON.DE (Sebastian Welton) writes:
> I have an original IBM Thinkpad. This is a small brown pocket notepad with
> the word 'THINK' printed on the front and 'IBM' on the back (pn 520-6430 nad
> 520-6431) still with the original paper pad inside but I think I'll keep it as its
> quite amusing showing people.

I have a couple of the brown pocket notepads ... but i also have
(round, clear, globe):
http://www.garilc.com/~lynn/vnet1000.jpg

it has gotten a little dinged over the years.

the internal network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

was larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until
sometime possibly mid-85.

past reference mentioning the 1000th node
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#112
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/internet.htm#22

the internal network was originally developed at the science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

the same place that originated virtual machines, GML, lots of
interactive stuff.

for recent slightly related networking post about a couple yrs earlier
(1980) ... 300 people from the IMS group having to be moved to offsite
location ... because STL had filled up (includes screen shot of
the 3270 logon logo):
http://www.garlic.com/2008m.html#20 IBM-MAIN longevity

One of the interesting aspects of the internal network implementation
was that it effectively had a form of gateway implementation in every
node. this became important when interfacing with hasp/jes networking
implementations.

part of the issue was that hasp/jes networking started off defining
nodes using spare slots in the 255-entry table for psuedo (unit record)
devices ... typical hasp/jes might have only 150 entries available for
defining network nodes. hasp/jes implementation also had a habit of
discarding traffic where the originating node and/or the destination
node wasn't in its internal table. the internal network quickly exceeded
the number of nodes that could be defined in hasp/jes ... and its
proclivity for discarding traffic ... pretty much regulated hasp/jes to
boundary nodes. by the time hasp/jes got around to increasing the limit
to 999 nodes ... the internal network was already over 1000 nodes ...
and by the time it was further increased to 1999 nodes ... the internal
network was over 2000 nodes.

hasp/jes implementation also had a design flaw where the network
information was intermingled with other hasp/jes processing control
information (as opposed to clean separation). the periodic outcome that
two has/jes systems at different release levels were typically unable to
communicate ... and in some cases, release incompatibilities could cause
other hasp/jes systems to crash (there is infamous scenario where a san
jose hasp/jes system was crashing hurseley hasp/jes systems).

The combination of the internal networking support started accumulating
some number of "release-specific" hasp/jes "drivers" ... where an
intermediate internal network node was configured to start the
corresponding hasp/jes driver for the system on the other end of the
wire. As the problems with release incompatibilities between hasp/jes
systems increased ... the internal network code evolved a canonical
hasp/jes representation ... and drivers would translate format to the
specific hasp/jes release (as appropriate). In the hursley crashing
scenario ... somebody even got around to blaming the internal network
code for not preventing a san jose hasp/jes systems from crashing
hurseley hasp/jes systems.

By the time, BITNET started
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

they had pretty much eliminated shipping native drivers ... just the
hasp/jes compatible drivers ... even tho the native drivers were much
more efficient and had higher thruput than the hasp/jes drivers
... although the native drivers did continue to be used on the internal
network (note these were *NOT* SNA).

misc. past posts mentioning hasp/jes (including hasp/jes networking
support)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hasp

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[Anne & Lynn Wheeler]

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#35 IBM THINK original equipment sign

and for something different ... a 2741 APL typeball
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aplball.jpg

the science center (besides virtual machines, gml, a lot of online,
interactive stuff, timesharing, performance work, monitoring, profiling,
early work that led to capacity planning, etc)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

also had taken apl\360 and ported it to cms ... which was released as
cms\apl (did a lot of work on apl storage management as part of
transitioning from a small (16k-32k byte) workspace real-storage swapped
environment to a large (up to 16mbyte) workspace virtual storage paged
environment. there was also work done allowing apl access to system
resources like files and external data.

having "large" workspaces and ability to access files and other system
facilities enabled a much broader variety of real-world applications.
one such was the business planners in corporate hdqtrs ... had the most
sensitive of corporate information (detailed customer data) loaded on
the cambridge system ... and they accessed the cambridge cp67 system
remotely from corporate hdqtrs ... for the development and execution of
business models (type of thing that is now frequently done with
spreadsheets).

this required some amount of attention to security details ... since the
cambridge cp67 system also was used by non-employees from various
educational institutions in the boston area (and as mentioned in my
signature line ... i've had online home use since Mar70).

also as mentioned in this recent post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#1

in the wake of 23jun69 unbundling announcement ... HONE (hands-on
network experience) started out being a number of cp67 virtual machines
systems to give branch office SEs remote access keeping up their
skills/practice with operating systems. misc. past posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

however, somewhat in parallel, some number of CMS\APL based sales &
marketing applications were being develop ... and they eventually come
to dominate all HONE use ... and the original virtual machine purpose
dwindled away.

CMS\APL (from the cambridge science center on cp67 cms) was eventually
replaced with APL\CMS (from the palo alto science center on vm370 cms
... PASC also did the apl\cms 370/145 microcode assist).

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[Don Higgins]

All

Thanks for feedback. I think my IBM oem sign is probably worth more than
the current one shown on eBay with bid for $13. As my first attempt at using
eBay, I think I'll try signing up and offerring the sign to the highest bidder.

If it goes well, I have some other interesting stuff like the Microsoft version of
OS/2 with Microsoft Manual published just before IBM bought all the rights.
Then there is the original Microsoft M80 manual for CP/M that I used to
develop MMS/370 the predecessor to PC/370 on a TRS-80 using Lifeboat CP/M.
Oh how I loved that z80 chip. I don't think I'll ever sell the worn out z80 POP
ref. manual with the ragged pages. Most of the instructions were 8 bit, and a
few 16 bit so doing 370 multiply/divide with 32/64 bit words was a fun math
exercise.

Don Higgins
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