What's Needed in Linklst?

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Lizette Koehler

2009-06-22 15:16:10 UTC

I am running into a documentation issue.

Apparently we have not kept up on what IBM has added to the LINKLST over the years. Is there a doc somewhere that states all the libraries that IBM wants in the LINKLST as of z/OS V1.9? I have been reviewing the REDBOOKs and other manuals, but do not find a current list.

What I am missing todate I think are

SYS1.SIEALNKE
SYS1.SIEAMIGE

Not sure if there are others.

The CPAC PROG00 member did not show it included. However, some of my research seems to show it should be.

Lizette

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Ken Porowski

2009-06-22 15:23:29 UTC

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From my z/OS 1.9 ServerPac CPAC.PARMLIB(PROG00)

DSN(SYS1.LINKLIB)
DSN(SYS1.MIGLIB)
DSN(SYS1.CSSLIB)
DSN(CPAC.VTAMLIB)
DSN(CPAC.LINKLIB)
DSN(SYS1.SIEALNKE)
DSN(SYS1.SIEAMIGE)
DSN(TCPIP.SEZALOAD)
DSN(SYS1.ICE.SORTLIB)
DSN(SYS1.SICELINK)
DSN(EUV.SEUVLINK)
DSN(EOY.SEOYLOAD)
DSN(EOX.SEPHLOD1)
DSN(DIT.SDITMOD1)
DSN(CSF.SCSFMOD0)
DSN(CEE.SCEERUN2)
DSN(CEE.SCEERUN)
DSN(CBC.SCLBDLL2)
DSN(CBC.SCLBDLL)
DSN(ASM.SASMMOD1)
DSN(APK.SAPKMOD1)
DSN(SYS1.SIOALMOD)
DSN(SYS1.SHASMIG)
DSN(SYS1.SHASLNKE)
DSN(SYS1.SERBLINK)
DSN(SYS1.SCUNIMG)
DSN(SYS1.SCBDHENU)
DSN(SYS1.SBDTLINK)
DSN(SYS1.SBDTLIB)
DSN(SYS1.SBDTCMD)
DSN(SYS1.NFSLIBE)
DSN(SYS1.DGTLLIB)
DSN(SYS1.DFQLLIB)
DSN(SYS1.CMDLIB)
DSN(REXX.SEAGALT)
DSN(ISP.SISPLOAD)
DSN(ISF.SISFLOAD)
DSN(ISF.SISFLINK)
DSN(IOE.SIOELMOD)
DSN(GIM.SGIMLMD0)
DSN(GDDM.SADMMOD)
DSN(FFST.SEPWMOD4)
DSN(FFST.SEPWMOD2)

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I am running into a documentation issue.

Apparently we have not kept up on what IBM has added to the LINKLST over
the years. Is there a doc somewhere that states all the libraries that
IBM wants in the LINKLST as of z/OS V1.9? I have been reviewing the
REDBOOKs and other manuals, but do not find a current list.

What I am missing todate I think are

SYS1.SIEALNKE
SYS1.SIEAMIGE

Not sure if there are others.

The CPAC PROG00 member did not show it included. However, some of my
research seems to show it should be.

Lizette

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McKown, John

2009-06-22 15:24:11 UTC

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>
> I am running into a documentation issue.
>
> Apparently we have not kept up on what IBM has added to the
> LINKLST over the years. Is there a doc somewhere that states
> all the libraries that IBM wants in the LINKLST as of z/OS
> V1.9? I have been reviewing the REDBOOKs and other manuals,
> but do not find a current list.
>
> What I am missing todate I think are
>
> SYS1.SIEALNKE
> SYS1.SIEAMIGE
>
> Not sure if there are others.
>
> The CPAC PROG00 member did not show it included. However,
> some of my research seems to show it should be.
>
>
> Lizette

Hum, interesting question. I did find the following in the z/OS 1.10 "Init and Tuning" manual:

<quote>
Use the LNKLSTxx member of parmlib to specify the program libraries that
are to be concatenated to SYS1.LINKLIB to form the LNKLST concatenation.
In addition to the data sets you specify in LNKLSTxx, the system
automatically concatenates data sets SYS1.MIGLIB, SYS1.CSSLIB,
SYS1.SIEALNKE and SYS1.SIEAMIGE to SYS1.LINKLIB.
</quote>

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Jousma, David

2009-06-22 15:24:40 UTC

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I'd be interested in the doc too, but my serverpac SYS1.CPAC.PARMLIB(PROG00) from 1.10 does have the libraries in it that you mention.

I don’t actually run with SYS1.CPAC.PARMLIB, but as part of the upgrade, I compare what is in my LINKLST,APFLIST with what IBM put in the serverpac version, and add those to mine.

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Subject: What's Needed in Linklst?

I am running into a documentation issue.

Apparently we have not kept up on what IBM has added to the LINKLST over the years. Is there a doc somewhere that states all the libraries that IBM wants in the LINKLST as of z/OS V1.9? I have been reviewing the REDBOOKs and other manuals, but do not find a current list.

What I am missing todate I think are

SYS1.SIEALNKE
SYS1.SIEAMIGE

Not sure if there are others.

The CPAC PROG00 member did not show it included. However, some of my research seems to show it should be.

Lizette

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Richard Peurifoy

2009-06-22 15:31:00 UTC

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Lizette Koehler wrote:
> I am running into a documentation issue.
>
> Apparently we have not kept up on what IBM has added to the LINKLST over the years. Is there a doc somewhere that states all the libraries that IBM wants in the LINKLST as of z/OS V1.9? I have been reviewing the REDBOOKs and other manuals, but do not find a current list.
>
> What I am missing todate I think are
>
> SYS1.SIEALNKE
> SYS1.SIEAMIGE
>
> Not sure if there are others.
>
> The CPAC PROG00 member did not show it included. However, some of my research seems to show it should be.

Lizette,

Here are the IBM libraries we have in LINKLST:

SYS1.LINKLIB
SYS1.MIGLIB
SYS1.CSSLIB
SYS1.SCUNIMG
SYS1.NFSLIBE
SYS1.DGTLLIB
IGY.SIGYCOMP
SYS1.DFQLLIB
SYS1.SIEAMIGE
SYS1.SIEALNKE
SYS1.SICELINK
SYS1.SORTLIB
NETVIEW.SCNMLNKN
NETVIEW.CNMLINK
REXX.SEAGALT
EOX.SEPHLOD1
TCPIP.SEZALOAD
EUV.SEUVLINK
SYS1.CMDLIB
SYS1.SCBDHENU
CSF.SCSFMOD0
EOY.SEOYLOAD
GIM.SGIMLMD0
CEE.SCEERUN
ISP.SISPLOAD
FFST.SEPWMOD2
FFST.SEPWMOD4
IOE.SIOELMOD
SYS1.SIOALMOD
ASM.SASMMOD1
CBC.SCLBDLL
GDDM.SADMMOD
SYS1.SIATLINK
SYS1.SIATLIB
SYS1.SIATMIG
CBC.SCCNCMP
CBC.SCLBDLL2
CEE.SCEERUN2
VSF2.VSF2LOAD
SYS1.CICSTS31.CICS.SDFHLINK
SYS1.CICSTS31.CPSM.SEYULINK

The SYS1.SIAT... are JES3, if you run JES2, you need a different set.

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Edward Jaffe

2009-06-22 15:39:43 UTC

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Richard Peurifoy

2009-06-22 15:41:33 UTC

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Lizette Koehler wrote:
> I am running into a documentation issue.
>
> Apparently we have not kept up on what IBM has added to the LINKLST over the years. Is there a doc somewhere that states all the libraries that IBM wants in the LINKLST as of z/OS V1.9? I have been reviewing the REDBOOKs and other manuals, but do not find a current list.
>
> What I am missing todate I think are
>
> SYS1.SIEALNKE
> SYS1.SIEAMIGE
>
> Not sure if there are others.
>
> The CPAC PROG00 member did not show it included. However, some of my research seems to show it should be.

Lizette,

Another thing to think about if you are adding libraries is
RACF or equivalent PROGRAM CLASS.

Here is whats in mine:

CBC.SCBCCMP
CBC.SCLBDLL
CEE.SCEERUN
CEE.SCEERUN2
CSF.SCSFMOD0
CSF.SCSFMOD1
DB2.DSNEXIT
DB2.DSNLOAD
GLD.SGLDLNK
GSK.SGSKLOAD
ICA.SICALMOD
IOE.SIOELMOD
SAG.ADA743.LOAD
SAG.ADA743B.LOAD
SAG.NAT424.LOAD
SAG.NDV225.LOAD
SSW.DMS.LOADLIB
SYS1.CSSLIB
SYS1.LINKLIB
SYS1.MIGLIB
SYS1.SIEALNKE
SYS2.MVSA.CA1.CAILIB
TCPIP.SEZALINK
TCPIP.SEZALOAD

Note this and the LINKLST I sen earlier are at
z/OS 1.9

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Richard Peurifoy

2009-06-22 15:49:00 UTC

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Richard Peurifoy wrote:
> Lizette Koehler wrote:
>> I am running into a documentation issue.
>>
>> Apparently we have not kept up on what IBM has added to the LINKLST
>> over the years. Is there a doc somewhere that states all the
>> libraries that IBM wants in the LINKLST as of z/OS V1.9? I have been
>> reviewing the REDBOOKs and other manuals, but do not find a current list.
>>
>> What I am missing todate I think are
>>
>> SYS1.SIEALNKE
>> SYS1.SIEAMIGE
>>
>> Not sure if there are others.
>>
>> The CPAC PROG00 member did not show it included. However, some of my
>> research seems to show it should be.
>
> Lizette,
>
> Another thing to think about if you are adding libraries is
> RACF or equivalent PROGRAM CLASS.
>
> Here is whats in mine:
>
> CBC.SCBCCMP
> CBC.SCLBDLL
> CEE.SCEERUN
> CEE.SCEERUN2
> CSF.SCSFMOD0
> CSF.SCSFMOD1
> DB2.DSNEXIT
> DB2.DSNLOAD
> GLD.SGLDLNK
> GSK.SGSKLOAD
> ICA.SICALMOD
> IOE.SIOELMOD
> SAG.ADA743.LOAD
> SAG.ADA743B.LOAD
> SAG.NAT424.LOAD
> SAG.NDV225.LOAD
> SSW.DMS.LOADLIB
> SYS1.CSSLIB
> SYS1.LINKLIB
> SYS1.MIGLIB
> SYS1.SIEALNKE
> SYS2.MVSA.CA1.CAILIB
> TCPIP.SEZALINK
> TCPIP.SEZALOAD
>
> Note this and the LINKLST I sen earlier are at
> z/OS 1.9

I forgot to remove the non IBM libraries,
but I'm sure you can figure that out :-).

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Kelly Arrey

2009-06-22 20:13:08 UTC

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Hi Richard,

A quick aside - CBC.SCBCCMP is the old OS/390 C/C++ compiler, which has
not been enhanced since 2000. The current compiler, the z/OS XL C/C++
compiler, is in CBC.SCCNCMP. This compiler has been enhanced in almost
every release since z/OS V1.2.
Thanks and Regards,
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Lizette Koehler wrote:
> I am running into a documentation issue.
>
> Apparently we have not kept up on what IBM has added to the LINKLST over
the years. Is there a doc somewhere that states all the libraries that
IBM wants in the LINKLST as of z/OS V1.9? I have been reviewing the
REDBOOKs and other manuals, but do not find a current list.
>
> What I am missing todate I think are
>
> SYS1.SIEALNKE
> SYS1.SIEAMIGE
>
> Not sure if there are others.
>
> The CPAC PROG00 member did not show it included. However, some of my
research seems to show it should be.

Lizette,

Another thing to think about if you are adding libraries is
RACF or equivalent PROGRAM CLASS.

Here is whats in mine:

CBC.SCBCCMP
CBC.SCLBDLL
CEE.SCEERUN
CEE.SCEERUN2
CSF.SCSFMOD0
CSF.SCSFMOD1
DB2.DSNEXIT
DB2.DSNLOAD
GLD.SGLDLNK
GSK.SGSKLOAD
ICA.SICALMOD
IOE.SIOELMOD
SAG.ADA743.LOAD
SAG.ADA743B.LOAD
SAG.NAT424.LOAD
SAG.NDV225.LOAD
SSW.DMS.LOADLIB
SYS1.CSSLIB
SYS1.LINKLIB
SYS1.MIGLIB
SYS1.SIEALNKE
SYS2.MVSA.CA1.CAILIB
TCPIP.SEZALINK
TCPIP.SEZALOAD

Note this and the LINKLST I sen earlier are at
z/OS 1.9

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Richard Peurifoy

2009-06-22 20:44:59 UTC

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Kelly Arrey wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> A quick aside - CBC.SCBCCMP is the old OS/390 C/C++ compiler, which has
> not been enhanced since 2000. The current compiler, the z/OS XL C/C++
> compiler, is in CBC.SCCNCMP. This compiler has been enhanced in almost
> every release since z/OS V1.2.
> Thanks and Regards,
> Kel
> Release Manager,
> z/OS XL C/C++ Compiler Development

Thanks,

I had missed that change.
I guess we don't have anything that needs to use it in
a controlled environment or I would have gotten an error.

I will fix this.

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Skip Robinson

2009-06-22 16:15:24 UTC

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As others have indicated, the two named libraries do appear to be included
in (at least) the 1.9 CPAC.PARMLIB(PROG00). Setting aside the question of
whether they need to be there or are automatically included by the system
on any search, you might try to track down why your PROG00 is different.

As part of building a new IPLable and migratable system from ServerPac, we
construct a concatenation of CPAC-derived members for both linklist and
APFlist. Each concatenation also includes members for non-sysres libraries
for ISV and installation load libraries. If you do this sort of thing
routinely for each new ServerPac, you will tend to stay current.

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I am running into a documentation issue.

Apparently we have not kept up on what IBM has added to the LINKLST over
the years. Is there a doc somewhere that states all the libraries that IBM
wants in the LINKLST as of z/OS V1.9? I have been reviewing the REDBOOKs
and other manuals, but do not find a current list.

What I am missing todate I think are

SYS1.SIEALNKE
SYS1.SIEAMIGE

Not sure if there are others.

The CPAC PROG00 member did not show it included. However, some of my
research seems to show it should be.

Lizette

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John Eells

2009-06-22 18:54:20 UTC

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Lizette Koehler wrote:
> I am running into a documentation issue.
>
> Apparently we have not kept up on what IBM has added to the LINKLST over the years. Is there a doc somewhere that states all the libraries that IBM wants in the LINKLST as of z/OS V1.9? I have been reviewing the REDBOOKs and other manuals, but do not find a current list.
>
> What I am missing todate I think are
>
> SYS1.SIEALNKE
> SYS1.SIEAMIGE
>
> Not sure if there are others.
>
> The CPAC PROG00 member did not show it included. However, some of my research seems to show it should be.
<snip>

In the CustomPac Dialog, you can use the View and Change option to
display the lists of link list eligible and LPA list eligible data sets.
If I recall correctly, the ServerPac-provided link list should contain
all the link list eligible data sets that are NOT also LPA list eligible
(as the latter are placed in the LPA list).

For information about View and Change, see:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/cpp2uda0/8.2?ACTION=MATCHES&REQUEST=view&TYPE=EXACTN&SHELF=EZ2ZBK0G&DT=20080604054802&CASE=&searchTopic=TOPIC&searchText=TEXT&searchIndex=INDEX&rank=RANK&ScrollTOP=FIRSTHIT#FIRSTHIT

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Mark Zelden

2009-06-23 00:30:55 UTC

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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:13:24 -0700, Skip Robinson <***@SCE.COM>
wrote:

>As others have indicated, the two named libraries do appear to be included
>in (at least) the 1.9 CPAC.PARMLIB(PROG00). Setting aside the question of
>whether they need to be there or are automatically included by the system
>on any search, you might try to track down why your PROG00 is different.
>
>As part of building a new IPLable and migratable system from ServerPac, we
>construct a concatenation of CPAC-derived members for both linklist and
>APFlist. Each concatenation also includes members for non-sysres libraries
>for ISV and installation load libraries. If you do this sort of thing
>routinely for each new ServerPac, you will tend to stay current.
>

There have always been libraries included in Serverpac that we didn't want
nor need in the LNKLST. Also, I share a serverpac between environments
that don't all run the same product mix now (in the past, we ordered separate
serverpacs, but I finally reconciled it all to a combined order for z/OS 1.8).

All of which leads me to my point: The migration manual tells you about the
new libraries that are needed, so you don't need to rely on looking at or
using the sample that comes on the CPAC PARMLIB. But those samples
are a great reference, not only for PROGxx, but for other "site specific"
or serverpac specific parmlib members. A good example is BPXPRMxx since
the unix file systems that come with your order are probably different
than the ones your friend got.

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Peter Relson

2009-06-23 12:20:21 UTC

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As far as IPLing is required, the only required data sets are
SYS1.LINKLIB (and the SYSLIB LINKLIB data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)
SYS1.MIGLIB (and the SYSLIB MIGLIB data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)
SYS1.CSSLIB (and the SYSLIB CSSLIB data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)
SYS1.SIEALNKE (and the SYSLIB LINKLIBE data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)
SYS1.SIEAMIGE (and the SYSLIB MIGLIBE data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)

Lack of these data sets will result in a wait state (code 0A with message
IEA716I)..

Basically, it's those data sets that are placed by the system, or required
to be there, in (almost) all circumstances into every LNKLST set.

All the other data sets that have been shown likely relate to a properly
running system with all the various z/OS elements. So they're likely
"necessary" in some way but won't result in an IPL-time wait state

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Klein, Kenneth

2009-06-23 12:27:31 UTC

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I'm getting this error message when I try to select rmf III from the
main RMF monitor menu.

There's nothing in the log or the output from my tso session. This works
on one of our lpars and fails on the other two.

TIA

Unable to allocate file ADMGDF. Contact your system administrator.
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As far as IPLing is required, the only required data sets are
SYS1.LINKLIB (and the SYSLIB LINKLIB data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)
SYS1.MIGLIB (and the SYSLIB MIGLIB data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)
SYS1.CSSLIB (and the SYSLIB CSSLIB data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)
SYS1.SIEALNKE (and the SYSLIB LINKLIBE data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)
SYS1.SIEAMIGE (and the SYSLIB MIGLIBE data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)

Lack of these data sets will result in a wait state (code 0A with
message IEA716I)..

Basically, it's those data sets that are placed by the system, or
required to be there, in (almost) all circumstances into every LNKLST
set.

All the other data sets that have been shown likely relate to a properly
running system with all the various z/OS elements. So they're likely
"necessary" in some way but won't result in an IPL-time wait state

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Horne, Jim - James S

2009-06-23 12:30:26 UTC

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Has RMFGAT been started (F RMF,S III)?

Jim Horne
Systems Programmer
Large Systems Engineering & Messaging NC4IT
Lowe's Companies, Inc.
1000 Lowe's Boulevard
Mooresville, NC
704-758-5354
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Ken Klein wrote:

I'm getting this error message when I try to select rmf III from the
main RMF monitor menu.

There's nothing in the log or the output from my tso session. This works
on one of our lpars and fails on the other two.

TIA

Unable to allocate file ADMGDF. Contact your system administrator.
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Klein, Kenneth

2009-06-23 13:03:05 UTC

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Yes, thanks.
The three lpars share catalogs and once one of the lpars allocates the
dataset, the others enque on it.
I want to put a system symbolic like &sysname in the data set names.

Did you get all done moving down from Wilkesboro?

Ken Klein
Sr. Systems Programmer
Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville
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Has RMFGAT been started (F RMF,S III)?

Jim Horne
Systems Programmer
Large Systems Engineering & Messaging NC4IT Lowe's Companies, Inc.
1000 Lowe's Boulevard
Mooresville, NC
704-758-5354
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Ken Klein wrote:

I'm getting this error message when I try to select rmf III from the
main RMF monitor menu.

There's nothing in the log or the output from my tso session. This works
on one of our lpars and fails on the other two.

TIA

Unable to allocate file ADMGDF. Contact your system administrator.
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