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DFSMSdss Release command
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Gadi Ben-Avi
2018-05-01 10:20:52 UTC
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Hi,
I am trying to create a job that will use the DFSMSdss RELEASE command to release unused space from a list of datasets.
Can anyone help me?

Thanks

Gadi

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The manual is a mess to find what you are looking for.
This the example chapter of RELEASE in the DFdss manual.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.adru000/dgt3u2147.htm

to specify a list of datasets, use the FILTERDD parameter
//SYSIN DD *
RELEASE DS(FILTERDD(FILTD1))
//FILTD1 DD *
INCLUDE(DSN1 -
DSN2 -
DSN3 -
DSN4 -
DSN5 -
DSN6 -
DSN7 -
DSN8 -
DSN9 -
)
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.adru000/cnsfil.htm

Kees.
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Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi
Sent: 01 May, 2018 12:22
Subject: DFSMSdss Release command
Hi,
I am trying to create a job that will use the DFSMSdss RELEASE command
to release unused space from a list of datasets.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks
Gadi
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Gadi Ben-Avi
2018-05-01 11:33:56 UTC
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Thanks
I did that, but for some reason it's not working.
This is the command I am using:
GE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DA
RELEASE -
INCLUDE( -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 -
)

If I look at the file using DSLIST I see:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Enter "/" to select action Tracks %Used XT
----------------------------------------------------------------------
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 3542 0 2

So I would expect the last 63 files to be processed, but I get a message saying that no files were processed.
Each of the files is allocated on one volume, so there are no multivolume issues.

Gadi
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Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command

The manual is a mess to find what you are looking for.
This the example chapter of RELEASE in the DFdss manual.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.adru000/dgt3u2147.htm

to specify a list of datasets, use the FILTERDD parameter
//SYSIN DD *
RELEASE DS(FILTERDD(FILTD1))
//FILTD1 DD *
INCLUDE(DSN1 -
DSN2 -
DSN3 -
DSN4 -
DSN5 -
DSN6 -
DSN7 -
DSN8 -
DSN9 -
)
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.adru000/cnsfil.htm

Kees.
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On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi
Sent: 01 May, 2018 12:22
Subject: DFSMSdss Release command
Hi,
I am trying to create a job that will use the DFSMSdss RELEASE command
to release unused space from a list of datasets.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks
Gadi
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2018-05-01 11:42:53 UTC
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https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.adru000/dgt3u2131.htm

again, if you know what you are looking for, you can find it, often with help of Google.
Well hidden in the text is:
"DFSMSdss does not release any space for data sets that are empty (the last used block pointer in the data set’s VTOC entry is zero)."
AFAIK, there is no way around this restriction. We use CA-DISK for that.

Kees.
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Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi
Sent: 01 May, 2018 13:36
Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command
Thanks
I did that, but for some reason it's not working.
GE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DA
RELEASE -
INCLUDE( -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 -
)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Enter "/" to select action Tracks %Used XT
----------------------------------------------------------------------
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 3542 0 2
So I would expect the last 63 files to be processed, but I get a message
saying that no files were processed.
Each of the files is allocated on one volume, so there are no
multivolume issues.
Gadi
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Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command
The manual is a mess to find what you are looking for.
This the example chapter of RELEASE in the DFdss manual.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r
1.adru000/dgt3u2147.htm
to specify a list of datasets, use the FILTERDD parameter
//SYSIN DD *
RELEASE DS(FILTERDD(FILTD1))
//FILTD1 DD *
INCLUDE(DSN1 -
DSN2 -
DSN3 -
DSN4 -
DSN5 -
DSN6 -
DSN7 -
DSN8 -
DSN9 -
)
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r
1.adru000/cnsfil.htm
Kees.
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On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi
Sent: 01 May, 2018 12:22
Subject: DFSMSdss Release command
Hi,
I am trying to create a job that will use the DFSMSdss RELEASE command
to release unused space from a list of datasets.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks
Gadi
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?????? ??????. ?? ????, ???????? ?? ??? ???? ?????, ??????? ???? ????
????? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ?????. ????? ????? ???? ?? ?????? ??????
?????? ???? ?? ???? ??????? ??? ???, ?/?? ?????, ????? ?? ????? ?????
????? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ??????? ?/?? ?????? ?? ??????.
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סודיות מסחרית. כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד
וחתום על ידי מורשה החתימה של החברה. החברה רשאית לנטר כל תכתובת העוברת
בשרתיה והיא לא תישא באחריות לכל נזק, ו/או אובדן, שיבוש או פגיעה במידע
כלשהו שנגרם מסיבות של תקיפה חיצונית ו/או זדונית על הארגון.
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Gadi Ben-Avi
2018-05-01 12:22:39 UTC
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Thanks
Sometimes you need a microscope to find information.
I wish I had CA-Disk on this system.

Any suggestions on how to free this space?

Gadi

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Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:43 PM
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Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.adru000/dgt3u2131.htm

again, if you know what you are looking for, you can find it, often with help of Google.
Well hidden in the text is:
"DFSMSdss does not release any space for data sets that are empty (the last used block pointer in the data set’s VTOC entry is zero)."
AFAIK, there is no way around this restriction. We use CA-DISK for that.

Kees.
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On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi
Sent: 01 May, 2018 13:36
Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command
Thanks
I did that, but for some reason it's not working.
GE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DA
RELEASE -
INCLUDE( -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 -
)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Enter "/" to select action Tracks %Used XT
----------------------------------------------------------------------
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 3542 0 2
So I would expect the last 63 files to be processed, but I get a
message saying that no files were processed.
Each of the files is allocated on one volume, so there are no
multivolume issues.
Gadi
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On Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command
The manual is a mess to find what you are looking for.
This the example chapter of RELEASE in the DFdss manual.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v
2r
1.adru000/dgt3u2147.htm
to specify a list of datasets, use the FILTERDD parameter
//SYSIN DD *
RELEASE DS(FILTERDD(FILTD1))
//FILTD1 DD *
INCLUDE(DSN1 -
DSN2 -
DSN3 -
DSN4 -
DSN5 -
DSN6 -
DSN7 -
DSN8 -
DSN9 -
)
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v
2r
1.adru000/cnsfil.htm
Kees.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Sent: 01 May, 2018 12:22
Subject: DFSMSdss Release command
Hi,
I am trying to create a job that will use the DFSMSdss RELEASE
command to release unused space from a list of datasets.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks
Gadi
????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ???
?????? ??????. ?? ????, ???????? ?? ??? ???? ?????, ??????? ???? ????
????? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ?????. ????? ????? ???? ?? ?????? ??????
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Chuck Kreiter
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If a user is commonly creating empty files, have them use a tiny primary with a large secondary extent.

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Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command

Thanks
Sometimes you need a microscope to find information.
I wish I had CA-Disk on this system.

Any suggestions on how to free this space?

Gadi

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:43 PM
To: IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.adru000/dgt3u2131.htm

again, if you know what you are looking for, you can find it, often with help of Google.
Well hidden in the text is:
"DFSMSdss does not release any space for data sets that are empty (the last used block pointer in the data set’s VTOC entry is zero)."
AFAIK, there is no way around this restriction. We use CA-DISK for that.

Kees.
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On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi
Sent: 01 May, 2018 13:36
Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command
Thanks
I did that, but for some reason it's not working.
GE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DA
RELEASE -
INCLUDE( -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 -
)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Enter "/" to select action Tracks %Used XT
----------------------------------------------------------------------
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 3542 0 2
So I would expect the last 63 files to be processed, but I get a
message saying that no files were processed.
Each of the files is allocated on one volume, so there are no
multivolume issues.
Gadi
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Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command
The manual is a mess to find what you are looking for.
This the example chapter of RELEASE in the DFdss manual.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v
2r
1.adru000/dgt3u2147.htm
to specify a list of datasets, use the FILTERDD parameter
//SYSIN DD *
RELEASE DS(FILTERDD(FILTD1))
//FILTD1 DD *
INCLUDE(DSN1 -
DSN2 -
DSN3 -
DSN4 -
DSN5 -
DSN6 -
DSN7 -
DSN8 -
DSN9 -
)
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v
2r
1.adru000/cnsfil.htm
Kees.
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Subject: DFSMSdss Release command
Hi,
I am trying to create a job that will use the DFSMSdss RELEASE
command to release unused space from a list of datasets.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks
Gadi
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Thanks for the suggestion.

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Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command

If a user is commonly creating empty files, have them use a tiny primary with a large secondary extent.

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Thanks
Sometimes you need a microscope to find information.
I wish I had CA-Disk on this system.

Any suggestions on how to free this space?

Gadi

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https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.adru000/dgt3u2131.htm

again, if you know what you are looking for, you can find it, often with help of Google.
Well hidden in the text is:
"DFSMSdss does not release any space for data sets that are empty (the last used block pointer in the data set’s VTOC entry is zero)."
AFAIK, there is no way around this restriction. We use CA-DISK for that.

Kees.
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Sent: 01 May, 2018 13:36
Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command
Thanks
I did that, but for some reason it's not working.
GE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DA
RELEASE -
INCLUDE( -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 -
)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Enter "/" to select action Tracks %Used XT
----------------------------------------------------------------------
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 3542 0 2
So I would expect the last 63 files to be processed, but I get a
message saying that no files were processed.
Each of the files is allocated on one volume, so there are no
multivolume issues.
Gadi
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On Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command
The manual is a mess to find what you are looking for.
This the example chapter of RELEASE in the DFdss manual.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v
2r
1.adru000/dgt3u2147.htm
to specify a list of datasets, use the FILTERDD parameter
//SYSIN DD *
RELEASE DS(FILTERDD(FILTD1))
//FILTD1 DD *
INCLUDE(DSN1 -
DSN2 -
DSN3 -
DSN4 -
DSN5 -
DSN6 -
DSN7 -
DSN8 -
DSN9 -
)
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v
2r
1.adru000/cnsfil.htm
Kees.
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Sent: 01 May, 2018 12:22
Subject: DFSMSdss Release command
Hi,
I am trying to create a job that will use the DFSMSdss RELEASE
command to release unused space from a list of datasets.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks
Gadi
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?????? ??????. ?? ????, ???????? ?? ??? ???? ?????, ??????? ???? ????
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Do you have FDR?
MOVE TYPE=DSF,DATA=ALL,RLSE
SELECT CATDSN=dsname

Grtn,
Kees.
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Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi
Sent: 01 May, 2018 14:24
Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command
Thanks
Sometimes you need a microscope to find information.
I wish I had CA-Disk on this system.
Any suggestions on how to free this space?
Gadi
-----Original Message-----
Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.
v2r1.adru000/dgt3u2131.htm
again, if you know what you are looking for, you can find it, often with help of Google.
"DFSMSdss does not release any space for data sets that are empty (the
last used block pointer in the data set’s VTOC entry is zero)."
AFAIK, there is no way around this restriction. We use CA-DISK for that.
Kees.
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On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi
Sent: 01 May, 2018 13:36
Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command
Thanks
I did that, but for some reason it's not working.
GE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DA
RELEASE -
INCLUDE( -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 -
)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Enter "/" to select action Tracks %Used XT
----------------------------------------------------------------------
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 3542 0 2
So I would expect the last 63 files to be processed, but I get a
message saying that no files were processed.
Each of the files is allocated on one volume, so there are no multivolume issues.
Gadi
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On Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command
The manual is a mess to find what you are looking for.
This the example chapter of RELEASE in the DFdss manual.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v
2r
1.adru000/dgt3u2147.htm
to specify a list of datasets, use the FILTERDD parameter
//SYSIN DD *
RELEASE DS(FILTERDD(FILTD1))
//FILTD1 DD *
INCLUDE(DSN1
-
DSN2
-
DSN3
-
DSN4
-
DSN5
-
DSN6
-
DSN7
-
DSN8
-
DSN9
-
)
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v
2r
1.adru000/cnsfil.htm
Kees.
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Sent: 01 May, 2018 12:22
Subject: DFSMSdss Release command
Hi,
I am trying to create a job that will use the DFSMSdss RELEASE
command to release unused space from a list of datasets.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks
Gadi
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?????? ??????. ?? ????, ???????? ?? ??? ???? ?????, ??????? ????
????
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I have a program that releases free space without updating the last use date. The program reads an input file to select data sets for space release. We build the input with FDREPORT.
We select data sets that have a SMS MGMT class that allows
release of free space.

I am ashamed to say, but I can't remember the name of the gentlemen, on this list, who gave the program to me. In addition, Sam Golob, of CBT fame, greatly assisted me in updating the program to run on z/OS 2.2.

If you would like a copy of the program, please send me your email address, and I'll send you the source.

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Thanks
Sometimes you need a microscope to find information.
I wish I had CA-Disk on this system.

Any suggestions on how to free this space?

Gadi

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https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.adru000/dgt3u2131.htm

again, if you know what you are looking for, you can find it, often with help of Google.
Well hidden in the text is:
"DFSMSdss does not release any space for data sets that are empty (the last used block pointer in the data set’s VTOC entry is zero)."
AFAIK, there is no way around this restriction. We use CA-DISK for that.

Kees.
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Thanks
I did that, but for some reason it's not working.
GE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DA
RELEASE -
INCLUDE( -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 -
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 -
)
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- Enter "/" to select action Tracks %Used XT
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KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 3542 0 2
So I would expect the last 63 files to be processed, but I get a
message saying that no files were processed.
Each of the files is allocated on one volume, so there are no
multivolume issues.
Gadi
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The manual is a mess to find what you are looking for.
This the example chapter of RELEASE in the DFdss manual.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v
2r
1.adru000/dgt3u2147.htm
to specify a list of datasets, use the FILTERDD parameter
//SYSIN DD *
RELEASE DS(FILTERDD(FILTD1))
//FILTD1 DD *
INCLUDE(DSN1 -
DSN2 -
DSN3 -
DSN4 -
DSN5 -
DSN6 -
DSN7 -
DSN8 -
DSN9 -
)
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v
2r
1.adru000/cnsfil.htm
Kees.
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Hi,
I am trying to create a job that will use the DFSMSdss RELEASE
command to release unused space from a list of datasets.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks
Gadi
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- Enter "/" to select action Tracks %Used XT
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KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 3542 0 2
So I would expect the last 63 files to be processed, but I get a message saying that no files were processed.
Each of the files is allocated on one volume, so there are no multivolume issues.
Gadi
Gadi:
What is the dsorg of these data sets ? If it is unknown I think that is the why. I am reaching here but I think that is a adrssu restrictions. Other packages like DMS (If its still marketed) did this with the greatest of ease. Again my memory is dim but there is a way around this but I have always disliked it as the syntax stinks, IMO. Once you get it to work its all down hill but it does tape a patience.)

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Ed,

From the FM: "DFSMSdss does not release any space for data sets that are empty (the last used block pointer in the data set's VTOC entry is zero)."
DMS still exists and is called CA-DISK for the last 25 years, since Sterling and Sam sold it to that company for 8 million dollars (I wish I had written such a piece of software).

Kees.
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KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 3542 0 2
So I would expect the last 63 files to be processed, but I get a
message saying that no files were processed.
Post by Gadi Ben-Avi
Each of the files is allocated on one volume, so there are no
multivolume issues.
Post by Gadi Ben-Avi
Gadi
What is the dsorg of these data sets ? If it is unknown I think that is
the why. I am reaching here but I think that is a adrssu restrictions.
Other packages like DMS (If its still marketed) did this with the
greatest of ease. Again my memory is dim but there is a way around this
but I have always disliked it as the syntax stinks, IMO. Once you get it
to work its all down hill but it does tape a patience.)
Ed
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Ed,
From the FM: "DFSMSdss does not release any space for data sets that are empty (the last used block pointer in the data set's VTOC entry is zero)."
DMS still exists and is called CA-DISK for the last 25 years, since Sterling and Sam sold it to that company for 8 million dollars (I wish I had written such a piece of software).
Kees,
Thanks for the update on DMS, We had DMS during the 3850 time and DMS spent quite a bit of time add 3850 code.

I was a so-so fan of it for a while and then we decided to drop it which was a major blow to our storage manager. IIRC it got too expensive.
It had/has a LOT of good features, it just takes a bit of time hunting around in the manuals to find some information, although once you are reasonably proficient you mostly don’t need the manuals.

Sorry about the misdirect on ADRDSSU like I said though its been a while.

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Hi Ed,
The DSORG is PS for these datasets.

Gadi


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- Enter "/" to select action Tracks %Used XT
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KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180409 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180412 1 100 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180415 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180416 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180422 1 0 1
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180423 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180425 3542 0 2
KVPO.LGDM02.KLITMINL.SHILTA.D1180426 3542 0 2
So I would expect the last 63 files to be processed, but I get a message saying that no files were processed.
Each of the files is allocated on one volume, so there are no multivolume issues.
Gadi
Gadi:
What is the dsorg of these data sets ? If it is unknown I think that is the why. I am reaching here but I think that is a adrssu restrictions. Other packages like DMS (If its still marketed) did this with the greatest of ease. Again my memory is dim but there is a way around this but I have always disliked it as the syntax stinks, IMO. Once you get it to work its all down hill but it does tape a patience.)

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Hi Ed,
The DSORG is PS for these datasets.
Gadi
Are they in use?

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Here's the DSS statements we use to COMPRESS & RELEASE ...

COMPRESS DDNAME(DISK1) BY(REFDT GT *,-7) -
INCLUDE(**) -
EXCLUDE( -
LEAVE.ME.ALONE.**, -
)
IF LASTCC NE 0 THEN SET MAXCC = 0

RELEASE DDNAME(DISK1) MINSEC(1) BY(REFDT GT *,-7) -
INCLUDE(**) -
EXCLUDE( -
LEAVE.ME.ALONE.**, -
LEAVE.ME.ALONE2.**, -
etc. etc. -
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Gadi,

While this does not help to release the space on currently empty data sets,
you can mitigate the problem by having allocation assign a DSORG.

Set up your ACS rules to have datasets with an unspecified DSORG drop
through to a DATACLAS with DSORG=PS and the EOF is updated at allocation,
and release to 0 tracks will work on unopened datasets in the future.

Ron



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Hi,
I am trying to create a job that will use the DFSMSdss RELEASE command to
release unused space from a list of datasets.
Can anyone help me?

Thanks

Gadi

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