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The Tandem successors are now with HPE was Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus
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Clark Morris
2018-07-06 01:55:19 UTC
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DEC completely forgotten?
I once read that HP was a printer company masquerading as a computer
company.
The Tandem series successors are now on Intel Xeon or Itanium chips
depending on the line and with HPE as of today, July 5, 2018. There
is a COBOL 85 standard compiler for it and the manual is online. I'm
surprised that HPE/non-stop hasn't gotten a larger market share.

Clark Morris
At least IBM have stuck with the mainframe. HP have buried their
technological history.
In the beginning was Compaq, and HP was know for its excellent printers.
Then the printers went downhill and there was Hewlett PacPaq, although not
by that name. Wheile HP borged EDS, Dell borged Perot Systems. Oh, and TI
was somewhere in that saga. And oscilloscopes.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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OK, kids, pay attention, because this will be on the exam.
In the beginning, there was Hewlett-Packard, or HP. And HP was formless and
huge, and darkness was upon the stock.
And the Board made a decision: split the company! And thus was born Hewlett
Packard Enterprise (HPE)-no hyphen, and please don't call us "HP
Enterprise", not sure why, even though some of the internal URLs were at
http://secure-web.cisco.com/1ILmwkIn_TwKCIxaQtUmzZ7IJH8TTE_
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http://secure-web.cisco.com/1ILmwkIn_TwKCIxaQtUmzZ7IJH8TTE_
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t4NwoaA4Y0UiZkYOPcw3AjiAyw4/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hpenterprise.com> . HP
remained, as "HP
Inc." (HPQ), selling the consumer stuff: laptops, desktops, printers. HPE
took the "S" stuff: Servers, Services, and Software.
A few months after the split, HPE announced that they were doing a
"spin/merge": the Services were going to be split off and merging with what
was left of CSC, forming a new entity called DXC.
the Software was being sold off to Micro Focus.
So some folks went: HP==>HPE==>DXC; some went HP==>HPE==>Micro Focus; some
went just HP==>HPE; and some even stayed as HP the whole time.
Employee counts are maybe interesting-these are numbers I've seen, don't
HP originally: 300,000
HPE originally, after the split: 70,000
HPE without Services: 11,000
DXC: 170,500 (that "500" is oddly precise; with 170K, you'd think it would
fluctuate that much on a monthly/weekly/daily basis)
But HP now: 50,000 (a lot are missing, eh?)
Micro Focus now: 15,000 (including SUSE and HPE)
If you've been confused by all this, don't feel badly-the bloody trade
press
can't keep it straight, and that's their job! I've seen references to Meg
Whitman as being "CEO of HP" within the last couple of months, and yes, she
went to HPE. Like, two years ago. So there's no excuse for (them) getting
that wrong.
Thus endeth the lesson.
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Phil Smith III
2018-07-06 17:47:36 UTC
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Post by Clark Morris
The Tandem series successors are now on Intel Xeon or Itanium chips
depending on the line and with HPE as of today, July 5, 2018.
Correct. The HPE NonStop X is the Xeon version. Easy for us IBM old-timers
to remember: X = x86. The Itanium Kittson was the last version of IA64,
released in 2017.



Too bad-Itanium was interesting, just turned out to be the answer to a
question nobody asked.
Post by Clark Morris
I'm surprised that HPE/non-stop hasn't gotten a larger market share.
Well, they're also the answer to a question most people haven't asked. Those
who have seem mostly to be as committed to the platform as the average IBM Z
shop. I've been to some NonStop user group meetings (still often with the
"T" in the name, like MATUG - formerly Mid-Atlantic Tandem User Group, now
"Technology" instead of "Tandem") and they feel just like mainframe groups:
buncha old guys like me sitting around, all have known each other for
decades. The only difference was that I had even less idea than usual what
they were talking about!


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