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trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd
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Barkow, Eileen
2018-05-16 15:56:01 UTC
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I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described on IBMLINK and none of the
work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE. So I switched over to ADRDSSU.

I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU
(tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).

both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?

thanks in advance for any info.
****************************************
Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60

***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR
//OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
//
*********************************************************************************
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED
ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY
ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS
ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008
ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST







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Dyck, Lionel B. , RavenTek
2018-05-16 16:00:53 UTC
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For this I have always used ADRDSSU and then Terse'd the results before doing a binary FTP transfer - all while retaining the Terse DCB. Then unterse and ADRDSSU restore and it has worked.

Hope this helps

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Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) <sdg><
Mainframe Systems Programmer - RavenTek Solution Partners

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:57 AM
To: IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described on IBMLINK and none of the
work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE. So I switched over to ADRDSSU.

I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU
(tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).

both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?

thanks in advance for any info.
****************************************
Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60

***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR
//OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
//
*********************************************************************************
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED
ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY
ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS
ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008
ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST







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Barkow, Eileen
2018-05-16 16:49:30 UTC
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THANK YOU Lionel!
The TERSE/UNTERSE worked.
Although I think that these utilities should be able to work on their own.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 12:02 PM
To: IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

For this I have always used ADRDSSU and then Terse'd the results before doing a binary FTP transfer - all while retaining the Terse DCB. Then unterse and ADRDSSU restore and it has worked.

Hope this helps

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) <sdg><
Mainframe Systems Programmer - RavenTek Solution Partners

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:57 AM
To: IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described on IBMLINK and none of the
work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE. So I switched over to ADRDSSU.

I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU
(tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).

both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?

thanks in advance for any info.
****************************************
Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60

***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR
//OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
//
*********************************************************************************
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED
ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY
ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS
ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008
ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST







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Jackson, Rob
2018-05-16 18:07:59 UTC
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We DSS dump and FTP hundreds of PDSs and PDSEs every day (don't ask), both text and loadlibs. From z/OS to z/OS you don't need to worry about tersing for portability. You just need 'type e' and 'mode b' in your FTP control cards.

First Tennessee Bank
Mainframe Technical Support


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 12:51 PM
To: IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

[External Email]

THANK YOU Lionel!
The TERSE/UNTERSE worked.
Although I think that these utilities should be able to work on their own.


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 12:02 PM
To: IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

For this I have always used ADRDSSU and then Terse'd the results before doing a binary FTP transfer - all while retaining the Terse DCB. Then unterse and ADRDSSU restore and it has worked.

Hope this helps

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) <sdg><
Mainframe Systems Programmer - RavenTek Solution Partners

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:57 AM
To: IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described on IBMLINK and none of the work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE. So I switched over to ADRDSSU.

I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU (tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).

both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?

thanks in advance for any info.
****************************************
Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60

***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR //OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE //
*********************************************************************************
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008 ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST







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Barkow, Eileen
2018-05-16 19:09:58 UTC
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Thanks a lot for type e and mode b -
I remember using them for something or other in the past.
Getting rid of the terse will help.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jackson, Rob
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 2:09 PM
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Subject: Re: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

We DSS dump and FTP hundreds of PDSs and PDSEs every day (don't ask), both text and loadlibs. From z/OS to z/OS you don't need to worry about tersing for portability. You just need 'type e' and 'mode b' in your FTP control cards.

First Tennessee Bank
Mainframe Technical Support


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 12:51 PM
To: IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

[External Email]

THANK YOU Lionel!
The TERSE/UNTERSE worked.
Although I think that these utilities should be able to work on their own.


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 12:02 PM
To: IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

For this I have always used ADRDSSU and then Terse'd the results before doing a binary FTP transfer - all while retaining the Terse DCB. Then unterse and ADRDSSU restore and it has worked.

Hope this helps

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) <sdg><
Mainframe Systems Programmer - RavenTek Solution Partners

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:57 AM
To: IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described on IBMLINK and none of the work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE. So I switched over to ADRDSSU.

I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU (tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).

both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?

thanks in advance for any info.
****************************************
Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60

***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR //OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE //
*********************************************************************************
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008 ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST







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I used mode b type e and ADRSSSU is not recognizing the INPUT file

ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,COND=(0,NE)
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=PBCDOFP.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR


COMMAND INPUT ===> SCROLL ===> P
EZA1701I >>> PASS
230 FTPPMSA is logged on. Working directory is "FTPPMSA.".
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I mode B
EZA1701I >>> MODE B
200 Data transfer mode is Block
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I type e
EZA1701I >>> TYPE E
200 Representation type is Ebcdic NonPrint
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I LOCSITE TR PRI=500 SEC=60
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I LOCSITE LRECL=1024 BLKSIZE=27648 RECFM=FB
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I GET 'XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED' 'PBCDOFP.FA.HIST.DUMPED' (REPLACE
EZA1701I >>> PASV

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Subject: Re: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

We DSS dump and FTP hundreds of PDSs and PDSEs every day (don't ask), both text and loadlibs. From z/OS to z/OS you don't need to worry about tersing for portability. You just need 'type e' and 'mode b' in your FTP control cards.

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THANK YOU Lionel!
The TERSE/UNTERSE worked.
Although I think that these utilities should be able to work on their own.


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Subject: Re: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

For this I have always used ADRDSSU and then Terse'd the results before doing a binary FTP transfer - all while retaining the Terse DCB. Then unterse and ADRDSSU restore and it has worked.

Hope this helps

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described on IBMLINK and none of the work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE. So I switched over to ADRDSSU.

I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU (tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).

both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?

thanks in advance for any info.
****************************************
Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60

***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR //OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE //
*********************************************************************************
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008 ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST







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That looks like the DCB for a tersed dataset. DSS would be creating RECFM=U and BLKSIZE=27998 on disk.

Try this instead:

LOCSITE VARrecfm LRECL=27998 RECFM=U BLKSIZE=27998

First Tennessee Bank
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I used mode b type e and ADRSSSU is not recognizing the INPUT file

ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,COND=(0,NE)
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=PBCDOFP.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR


COMMAND INPUT ===> SCROLL ===> P
EZA1701I >>> PASS
230 FTPPMSA is logged on. Working directory is "FTPPMSA.".
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I mode B
EZA1701I >>> MODE B
200 Data transfer mode is Block
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I type e
EZA1701I >>> TYPE E
200 Representation type is Ebcdic NonPrint EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I LOCSITE TR PRI=500 SEC=60
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I LOCSITE LRECL=1024 BLKSIZE=27648 RECFM=FB EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I GET 'XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED' 'PBCDOFP.FA.HIST.DUMPED' (REPLACE EZA1701I >>> PASV

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Subject: Re: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

We DSS dump and FTP hundreds of PDSs and PDSEs every day (don't ask), both text and loadlibs. From z/OS to z/OS you don't need to worry about tersing for portability. You just need 'type e' and 'mode b' in your FTP control cards.

First Tennessee Bank
Mainframe Technical Support


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THANK YOU Lionel!
The TERSE/UNTERSE worked.
Although I think that these utilities should be able to work on their own.


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To: IBM-***@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

For this I have always used ADRDSSU and then Terse'd the results before doing a binary FTP transfer - all while retaining the Terse DCB. Then unterse and ADRDSSU restore and it has worked.

Hope this helps

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) <sdg><
Mainframe Systems Programmer - RavenTek Solution Partners

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described on IBMLINK and none of the work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE. So I switched over to ADRDSSU.

I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU (tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).

both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?

thanks in advance for any info.
****************************************
Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60

***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR //OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE //
*********************************************************************************
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008 ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST







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You can FTP an XMIT unload.


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Subject: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described on IBMLINK and none of the
work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE. So I switched over to ADRDSSU.

I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU
(tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).

both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?

thanks in advance for any info.
****************************************
Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60

***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR
//OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
//
*********************************************************************************
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED
ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY
ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS
ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008
ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST







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I was going to try XMIT as a last resort but the TERSE/UNTERSE steps added to the ADRDSSU jobs worked.
I think that XMIT needs a USERID to send to and there are different userids involved in each lpar.

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You can FTP an XMIT unload.


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Subject: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described on IBMLINK and none of the
work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE. So I switched over to ADRDSSU.

I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU
(tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).

both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?

thanks in advance for any info.
****************************************
Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60

***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR
//OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
//
*********************************************************************************
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED
ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY
ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS
ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008
ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST







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You can easily use TSO Transmit (XMIT) to a dataset thus:

XMIT x.y DS(input) ODS(xxx.xmit)

Where x.y is node.userid but that can be anything as it is just going to a dataset

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I was going to try XMIT as a last resort but the TERSE/UNTERSE steps added to the ADRDSSU jobs worked.
I think that XMIT needs a USERID to send to and there are different userids involved in each lpar.

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You can FTP an XMIT unload.


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Subject: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described on IBMLINK and none of the
work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE. So I switched over to ADRDSSU.

I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU
(tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).

both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?

thanks in advance for any info.
****************************************
Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60

***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR
//OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
//
*********************************************************************************
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED
ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY
ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS
ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008
ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST







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You don't really need to worry about the XMIT userid - just specify anything at all, ABCD.DEFGHIJK will do. The basic idea is that you are using XMIT to set up a transportable copy of the PDSE and that you will be using FTP to send the file, not actually XMITting it.

HTH

Peter

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I was going to try XMIT as a last resort but the TERSE/UNTERSE steps added to the ADRDSSU jobs worked.
I think that XMIT needs a USERID to send to and there are different userids involved in each lpar.

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You can FTP an XMIT unload.


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Subject: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described on IBMLINK and none of the
work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE. So I switched over to ADRDSSU.

I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU
(tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).

both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?

thanks in advance for any info.
****************************************
Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60

***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR
//OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
//
*********************************************************************************
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED
ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY
ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS
ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008
ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST







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Although I haven't used it much, it would seem ftp's MVSPUT 'XCICS.FA.HIST'
'XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED' (REALLOC could eliminate some steps?
Post by Barkow, Eileen
I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described
on IBMLINK and none of the
work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE. So
I switched over to ADRDSSU.
I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore
fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU
(tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).
both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them
and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?
thanks in advance for any info.
****************************************
Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60
***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR
//OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
//
************************************************************
*********************
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED
ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY
ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS
ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008
ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST
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Forgot to include the link:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.halu001/mvsputsubcmd.htm
Post by Steve Horein
Although I haven't used it much, it would seem ftp's MVSPUT 'XCICS.FA.HIST'
'XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED' (REALLOC could eliminate some steps?
Post by Barkow, Eileen
I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described
on IBMLINK and none of the
work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE.
So I switched over to ADRDSSU.
I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore
fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU
(tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).
both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them
and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?
thanks in advance for any info.
****************************************
Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60
***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR
//OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
//
************************************************************
*********************
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED
ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY
ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS
ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008
ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST
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There is a 'mput' ftp command to ftp all the members but it takes a long time.
I am not sure about the MVSPUT option.

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Subject: Re: trying to reload a pdse after it has been unloaded and ftp'd

Although I haven't used it much, it would seem ftp's MVSPUT 'XCICS.FA.HIST'
'XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED' (REALLOC could eliminate some steps?
Post by Barkow, Eileen
I am trying to reload an unloaded pdse after it has been ftp'd to a target lpar.
there is a known problem with this using IEBCOPY UNLOAD/RELOAD described
on IBMLINK and none of the
work-around overrides to ftp work. TRSMAIN/TERSE does not support PDSE. So
I switched over to ADRDSSU.
I dump a dataset and am able to restore it on the same lpar.
However, when i ftp the dumped dataset to the remote lpar, the restore
fails because the input dataset is not valid for ADRDSSU
(tried ftp with both BIN and EBCDIC default).
both datasets (remote and local) look the same to me when browsing them
and have the same dcb info.
does anyone know how to restore an unloaded pdse that has been ftp'd?
thanks in advance for any info.
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Data Set Name . . . . : XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED
General Data
Management class . . : **None**
Storage class . . . : **None**
Volume serial . . . : W1STG2
Device type . . . . : 3390
Data class . . . . . : **None**
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size . . . . : 27998
1st extent tracks . : 1500
Secondary tracks . : 60
***original job used to create XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED******
//DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//DASD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=XCICX0,DISP=SHR
//TAPE DD UNIT=SYSDA,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSNAME=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,
// SPACE=(TRK,(1500,60),RLSE)
//SYSIN DD *
DUMP LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) WAIT(0,0)
/*
//****************************************************
**job to restore after ftp of XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED to remote lpar******
//RESTFA EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU COND=((0,NE),(0,EQ))
//*EST EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD DSN=XCICS.FA.HIST.DUMPED,DISP=SHR
//OUT DD VOL=SER=W1STG2,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
//
************************************************************
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PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R02.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2018.136 11:13
RESTORE INDD(IN) OUTDD(OUT) DATASET(INCLUDE(XCICS.FA.HIST)) -
CATALOG -
RENUNC(XCICS.FA.HIST,XCICS.FA.HIST.RESTORED) REPLACE
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR389E (001)-TDDS (07), INVALID INPUT ON DDNAME IN, INPUT DATA SET NOT PRODUCED
ADR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM ANY
ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2018.136 11:13:26 EXECUTION ENDS
ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2018.136 11:13:26 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 0008
ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2018.136 11:13:26 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST
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Post by Barkow, Eileen
THANK YOU Lionel!
The TERSE/UNTERSE worked.
Although I think that these utilities should be able to work on their own.
+1

Archivers such as IEBCOPY, ADRDSSU, TRSMAIN, ... should generate portable
archives which can be transmitted via conduits independent on the idiosyncrasies
of z/OS and its peripheral devices. TRANSMIT and pax get it right.
Post by Barkow, Eileen
XMIT x.y DS(input) ODS(xxx.xmit)
Where x.y is node.userid but that can be anything as it is just going to a dataset
And, blessedly, RECEIVE verifies or enforces neither the receiving node nor the
receiving userid.
Post by Barkow, Eileen
-----Original Message-----
From: Barkow, Eileen
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 11:52 AM
I was going to try XMIT as a last resort but the TERSE/UNTERSE steps added to the ADRDSSU jobs worked.
I think that XMIT needs a USERID to send to and there are different userids involved in each lpar.
-- gil

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